Fitters have to find some way to raise their ball flight, because those golfers lack the speed necessary to get the best results from many modern iron heads. So, if you really want to get better at golf, start by learning how to hold the club properly. This puts a 5 iron at 60* and that is way too flat for most people. And its one of only two elements of the golf swing that require absolutely no physical skills. But when I show them the results on golf radar, which can be as much as 5-to-10 yards more carry distance, they start to get it. AP2 irons are forged and can be bent with no problem, BUT I would recommend taking them to someone who does this for a living. The two things are diametrically opposed in meaning of course. I showed him all the stats on the monitor and he was in agreement but when it came to buying the actual driver he insisted on buying the 9.5 head with the TP after all the work on the launch monitor. Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95 The 2 that were out the most went from 'avoided' clubs to 'favourites'! Machines that adjust for all hosel positions, such asMitchell Angle Machinesare accurate regardless of the offset or hosel design of the golf club. *Performance average removes all outliers good and bad, to give a distance based on how far a well struck shot will go. sorry, didnt mean increase loft. The ball came out much higher and shorter, just like you would expect from a 63*. on tight fairways. If anything I am a digger in the golf swing. I take healthy beaver pelts with short irons, but the 2 iron is just a nip of grass. When you make the club loft stronger you decrease loft, when you make it weaker you increase the loft. (I ran into this today.) probably best to just change the shaft length), You stand tall over the golf ball when swinging, Your golf ball starts towards the right of your target (left for lefties), You hit the golf ball off the toe of the cub more often causing the clubface to open up and create push or slice. Now if you take some of the modern GI irons with the thick sole and rounded leading edge (Infiniti brand Assure comes to mind) you can de loft or strong loft it 3 or 4 degrees with no problem at all. Your link has been automatically embedded. I truly wish customers would do their do diligence before getting fit. When my first 'proper' set of clubs (MP30s) were done - at the same time as a Driver Shaft fitting - a couple were out considerably (the 6 iron had the loft of a 5!)! The market is fascinating this week, with world number 376 Andrew Novak leading the field. weight removed), (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip | SeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT. Privacy Policy If you want to simply hit the ball further, find an iron that launches really high and spins really low, you will knuckle ball the shot a long ways, but odds are you will not be able to control yardages or stop the ball under most conditions. Hi all, I was wondering if bending a club 2* strong would affect the playability of said club? I couldn't agree more, they are a thing of beauty but also of art, it'll change the effect the way the club goes through the turf, I've lost some distance using these because I was hitting the new T-MB which 3 iron went a mile, but the 3 iron in the MB's is what dreams are made of, way easy to hit and launch, I wouldn't want to mess with it, that being said I did increase the lie up 2 degrees for my swing:). This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. We'll walk you through the process and offer some simple tips and trick. Yes, it would make the clubs a little 'longer' (with a lower ball flight), but it might not be worth . Pasted as rich text. Your previous content has been restored. To do this, simply Google, Golf Club Fitters Near Me and you will get a great list of places that will make sure you are playing the right lie angle for your game. 1001 Industrial Blvd
You can post now and register later. So if you are steep or tend to take a pretty good divot, you may not want to bend them more than a degree. I will also need to bend my irons 2 degrees flat according to a lie board. 00bolt, September 12, 2016 in WRX Club Techs. So going 2 strong will remove 2 degrees of bounce. Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34" I am a good long iron player and prefer them over fairway woods and especially hybrids. Thats why I recommend that golfers get fit for irons on golf radar by a certified fitter who understands how loft and COG work together in iron design. Study those players and mimic their set-up and you will take another giant step toward playing better golf. If the hosel design and manufacturing processes allow it, the lie of an iron can be bent 3-4 degrees or more with no compromise to the integrity of the head. question on bending a forged iron 2 degrees strong By ssfranny, January 22, 2019 in WRX Club Techs Reply to this topic Start new topic ssfranny Lefty Boomers 3.5k Feedback 20 0 0 Total Rating 100% Posted January 22, 2019 Have a set of basically new MP 53s I want to bend them 2 degrees strong to make them play more a modern loft. I just switched from Wilson Ci9 to Taylormade TP MC, and Ive gained almost 15 yards despite the lofts being higher. If your Ball Speed was higher than that, say up to 125, which is a few MPH slower than PGA Tour average, you would want spin to stay within 200-300 RPMs higher, and Launch Angle to come down to about 14*. Good luck! 716 MB'S It sorts my gapping out perfectly as a result. Guess I dont get it. Don't think you'd notice a difference of 2. Pros and cons? Changing the loft on clubs can really screw with the visual look of them at address and change the playing characteristics. Your previous content has been restored. One good example comes to mind. I've never had a sand wedge bent. If you change your AOA and go 2* steeper, both delivered loft and bounce is reduced by 2* Forged titanium models are bendable as well due to their softer titanium structure. Here are some of the facts, and fallacies, about club adjustment. What bouncedoes is keep the leading edge from digging into the ground. So it doesnt matter to me what loft a golfers 6 iron is, as long as that loft allows a golfer to launch and spin the ball in a way thats ideal for their swing. It is common for the golfers I fit to hit todays irons, which average about 2 degrees less loft per club, as high as their current set (if not higher). Yes, it is possible to bend the irons 1-2 degrees stronger, but by doing so you would be reducing the effective bounce on the clubs. Bubba might better be able to answer that question, I know you can with the mb or cbs. Novak has finished 11th after the first round in Hawaii, fifth at Torrey Pines and in the top-30 at Pebble Beach and at the Honda. United States. I have plenty of X-flex swing speed and don't need the high launch (that just kills me in headwinds), but like the forgiveness on mishits. Check out the different lie angles of a standard 8 iron from these three companies: I know that the difference between these angles doesnt seem like much. On 7/12/2018 at 3:15 PM, PoeKingShankspeare said: Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here, w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. You can be assured there is not a single successful player in the professional ranks who does not have a fundamentally sound grip on the club. Approach play is the area of the game that leaves a lot to be desired amongst all levels of amateur golfers. Bending the hosel toward or away from the face plane, opens or closes the clubs face angle. By adding loft, those golfers achieve more ideal launch conditions, which means they carry shots farther and stop the ball faster on the green. This is a list of all clubheads that clubmakers are not allowed to bend. Nick so, how much difference can CoG location make to the optimum loft? Mizuno irons can be adjusted to varying degrees depending on model and material type. After the death of his mother, Endycott understandably struggled through the late teens, understandably saying that, At the time, golf didnt really matter to me.. Using like say an Older Macgregor blade butter knife with a thin sharp leading edge on the sole if you deloft more than 1 degree or so you have a chance of digging to China. A lot of mixing and matching There only seems to be one logical reason to do this and thats just in the odd situation where someone needs more bounce. Callaway Epic - HZRDUS BlackCobra F9 3 Wood ENTER NOW! You won't notice it. You may have heard golfers talk about how they need to use a flatter club or that they need to change their lie angle. What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2021, post-MAX changeover), Driver: Tour Edge EXS10.5, set 9.5;weights neutral ||FWs:CallaRogue4W + 7W, Hybrid: Calla Big Bertha OS4H at 22 ||Irons:Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW, Wedges*: Calla MD3:48MD4: 54, 58||Putter:Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. Hope I did not complicate this any and maybe helped you, Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label --- PW Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- SW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Rusty Scotty Santa Fe fluted Bulls Eye shaft---. "If you have any doubt about the hand position, think of this scenario. Would bending it serve the same result? 5 Testers Needed! May 20, 2016 at 10:43 AM
Compare that with 49-year-old Atwal, with a best of 49th place since 2021 and an average first-round placing of around 120th for his three starts in 2023, and Scott Brown, admittedly a former winner here, but now 719th in the world and who has, since September, withdrawn twice during tournaments, and missed his last two cuts (Pebble and Honda) ranking 99th and 136th for his first round he certainly looks wrong in every way. How will that affect it though? Adjusting 2 degrees strong will kill the bounce of your irons. I have read that it can create "diggers" is this true? These are topics that have been kicked around and that are important in todays market, so articles will most likely be touching on them in the future. Remember, the set is not necessarily progressively consistent from one club to another, and therefore each club should be checked. If jacking with strong lofting one you need to have a good fitter/ instructor work with you on your model suggestion and what will fit your swing. This could cause them to dig at impact, and no one wants that. The main reason it is done on GolfWRX is so people can brag how far they hit their irons, generally with a passive brag. Generally though as you decrease theloft of a club by one degree, you reduce its bounce a degree at the same time and if you increase the loft by one degree you increase the bounce by a degree. I just purchased a new set of 716MB irons. IG: golfer_scott Yes, the T200 can be bent 2 degrees flat and beyond 2 degrees upright Titleist manufactures heads 2 degrees upright which can be bent up to a further 2 degrees i.e up to 4 degrees from standard Please sign in to comment TUser January 21, 2020 at 08:09 AM Along the same lines, I got my new T200 irons late last year. Your golf ball starts off towards the left of your target (right for lefties). PXG 0311P Gen 3 - 5to PW - Nippon 125 X St Louis, MO. Show Your True Colors With Mitchell Golfs Custom Color Program. With your height you obviously need to be fit properly. With added ball speed comes more launch. I was 50 yards out on the 3rd hole, and was in the moguls. I completely agree with this! Not every iron or wedge can be bent. Chamblee takes on Tiger: Brandel, meet Bayless, Tweets of the week: Lizards, grammar police, bad greens, worse sunglasses. My irons are bent weak partly to get the right launch conditions but also to reduce my draw. It wasn't so much the distance I was concerned with but that I hit it a bit too high with a normal swing and it caused some issues on windy days. What bounce does is keep the leading edge from digging into the ground. If you're a true picker, wont make you a digger. That would depend on what GI head design you have and to be quite honest the only way to be sure would be to test these irons on a golf radar. Or Ping Glide Stealth, 54,58 SS. Watch this great video here if you are curious on how to bend the lie angle of a club using a loft/lie machine: Impact tape is a tape that a club fitter places on the face of the golf club that creates marks of where the golfer struck the ball on the clubface. By The fact remains that only stronger, faster swings can support lower lofts. The so-called "standard" lie angles are 9 iron at 64* with a spacing of 1 deg between clubs. Equipment counts courtesy of Darrell Survey. Check out our video: how-to bend your clubs on a Mitchell Golf Angle Machine:Get Bending! This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Since clubs are bent with iron bars by applying pressure on. Would they still be ideal? I'm curious what effect bending the irons 1 or 2 degrees strong would have on the irons playability. SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. If you have any doubt about the hand position, think of this scenario. Because of my forward foot was so much above my trail foot, my hands were a good 6" behind the ball, when compared to a level lie. But if your best place for improvement is in your approach shots or play with the long clubs, you simply must work on your fundamentals of the golf swing. Display as a link instead, Whether its changing the lie to improve accuracy or changing loft to make sure that the players clubs are progressively consistent, angle bending is a major factor in club performance. Bottom line: bending 2* strong may or may not cause issues. some strong lofts there, i thought you had blade type irons so, which have weaker lofts? Hope this Helps! All very well getting consistent loft gaps if your distance gaps are varied. Strengthening the loft should decrease the effective offset shouldn't it? Each player is different and because of this each iron plays different for each player. Everyone's comments are super helpful! I was 50 yards out on the 3rd hole, and was in the moguls. Restore formatting, Will the clubs dig more or enough to tell a difference? Hes happy to answer any of your questions! Are you above or below average for some or all of these statistics? Bending 2* strong will increase the clubs digging tendencies. TaylorMade Aero Burner TP 15 / Matrix White Tie 70-X Low bounce irons can become more digging prone from this change. Titleist Response to USGA / R&A Distance Insights, Bending 716MB irons 1 or 2 degrees strong. The reason this happens has to do with an iron's center of gravity (COG), because when you lower an iron's COG you add a lot of potential height to a golf shot. Well this article outlines a variety of statistics which will help you pinpoint which areas of the game you are above or below average. Well driving iron to be exact.